Comments on: Nobody ever expects… the Corfu Inqusition! http://www.overthecounterculture.com/2009/uk-secretaryofstate-copyright-trojan-measures-promise-witchhunts/ Staring at the sun Tue, 01 Jun 2010 15:17:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Over The Counter Culture» Blog Archive » Major internet players stand strong against (Mandy’s) Clause 17 of the Digital Economy Bill http://www.overthecounterculture.com/2009/uk-secretaryofstate-copyright-trojan-measures-promise-witchhunts/comment-page-1/#comment-527 Over The Counter Culture» Blog Archive » Major internet players stand strong against (Mandy’s) Clause 17 of the Digital Economy Bill Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:55:36 +0000 http://www.overthecounterculture.com/2009/official-government-now-certified-batshit-insane/#comment-527 [...] tidbit » Study predicts 50% of all patents will be owned by just 150 big companies » Nobody ever expects… the Corfu Inqusition! » Last.fm is becoming a great big clever iTunes in the sky » Open conversation online pays off [...] [...] tidbit » Study predicts 50% of all patents will be owned by just 150 big companies » Nobody ever expects… the Corfu Inqusition! » Last.fm is becoming a great big clever iTunes in the sky » Open conversation online pays off [...]

]]> By: Philippe Bradley http://www.overthecounterculture.com/2009/uk-secretaryofstate-copyright-trojan-measures-promise-witchhunts/comment-page-1/#comment-532 Philippe Bradley Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:04:03 +0000 http://www.overthecounterculture.com/2009/official-government-now-certified-batshit-insane/#comment-532 Care to argue, instead of preach?<br><br>If you do, please take into account my membership of Creative Commons, and consider the middle ground... Care to argue, instead of preach?

If you do, please take into account my membership of Creative Commons, and consider the middle ground…

]]> By: Philippe Bradley http://www.overthecounterculture.com/2009/uk-secretaryofstate-copyright-trojan-measures-promise-witchhunts/comment-page-1/#comment-523 Philippe Bradley Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:04:03 +0000 http://www.overthecounterculture.com/2009/official-government-now-certified-batshit-insane/#comment-523 Care to argue, instead of preach?<br><br>If you do, please take into account my membership of Creative Commons, and consider the middle ground... Care to argue, instead of preach?

If you do, please take into account my membership of Creative Commons, and consider the middle ground…

]]> By: Crosbie Fitch http://www.overthecounterculture.com/2009/uk-secretaryofstate-copyright-trojan-measures-promise-witchhunts/comment-page-1/#comment-522 Crosbie Fitch Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:12:33 +0000 http://www.overthecounterculture.com/2009/official-government-now-certified-batshit-insane/#comment-522 Sorry Philippe, until you snap out of the doublethink that an 18th century suspension of the public's liberty to share and build upon published culture is a good thing, you, as most people, will remain mystified at how cruel the enforcement of this unethical privilege has become.<br><br>When enlightenment strikes you and your fellows in that other place another time, in the bottom of the oubliette awaiting your inquisition, it will be too late. Sorry Philippe, until you snap out of the doublethink that an 18th century suspension of the public's liberty to share and build upon published culture is a good thing, you, as most people, will remain mystified at how cruel the enforcement of this unethical privilege has become.

When enlightenment strikes you and your fellows in that other place another time, in the bottom of the oubliette awaiting your inquisition, it will be too late.

]]> By: Philippe Bradley http://www.overthecounterculture.com/2009/uk-secretaryofstate-copyright-trojan-measures-promise-witchhunts/comment-page-1/#comment-521 Philippe Bradley Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:03:45 +0000 http://www.overthecounterculture.com/2009/official-government-now-certified-batshit-insane/#comment-521 I disagree that copyright is fundamentally a bad thing in a modern society -<br>and so would most people. That's a debate to be held in another place, at<br>another time.<br><br>What I *do* resent is atrocious legal precedents being set in response to<br>minor problems that are going away of their own accord IN SPITE OF already<br>extravagant and archaic copyright frameworks (one shudders to think what<br>issues the many new era music services - last.fm, spotify, we7 etc have to<br>put up with) - especially when the limited measures already proposed<br>infringe human rights and cost rights owners more money (<br><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2009/oct/28/costs-piracy-filesharing-mandelson" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2009/...</a>)<br>than<br>they would return to them - "it would cost £420m annually to run a system to<br>defeat a problem the music industry complains costs it £200m per year."<br><br>2009/11/23 Disqus <> I disagree that copyright is fundamentally a bad thing in a modern society -
and so would most people. That's a debate to be held in another place, at
another time.

What I *do* resent is atrocious legal precedents being set in response to
minor problems that are going away of their own accord IN SPITE OF already
extravagant and archaic copyright frameworks (one shudders to think what
issues the many new era music services – last.fm, spotify, we7 etc have to
put up with) – especially when the limited measures already proposed
infringe human rights and cost rights owners more money (
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2009/...)
than
they would return to them – “it would cost £420m annually to run a system to
defeat a problem the music industry complains costs it £200m per year.”

2009/11/23 Disqus <>

]]> By: Crosbie Fitch http://www.overthecounterculture.com/2009/uk-secretaryofstate-copyright-trojan-measures-promise-witchhunts/comment-page-1/#comment-520 Crosbie Fitch Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:38:06 +0000 http://www.overthecounterculture.com/2009/official-government-now-certified-batshit-insane/#comment-520 The problem is copyright - it's fundamentally unethical.<br><br>All those who support copyright will simply continue to reinforce its suspension of the people's cultural liberty.<br><br>There are no 'go easy' or 'go slightly less harsh' options. If copyright is good then the harder it is enforced the better.<br><br>It's only when enough people eventually realise that copyright is fundamentally unethical that we will see the ethical solution: the abolition of copyright - and the draconian enforcement to end with it.<br><br>What astounds me is that the Pirate Parties are still supporting copyright, or at least still paying lip service to its continuation (even if unconscionably reduced in term and scope). The problem is copyright – it's fundamentally unethical.

All those who support copyright will simply continue to reinforce its suspension of the people's cultural liberty.

There are no 'go easy' or 'go slightly less harsh' options. If copyright is good then the harder it is enforced the better.

It's only when enough people eventually realise that copyright is fundamentally unethical that we will see the ethical solution: the abolition of copyright – and the draconian enforcement to end with it.

What astounds me is that the Pirate Parties are still supporting copyright, or at least still paying lip service to its continuation (even if unconscionably reduced in term and scope).

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